“Regards the recent news from Germany to outlaw Bestiality…this post has a little more information in than the original one, thought you might be interested”
Animal rights groups have called for the practice to be recognised as animal defilement and rape, using dramatic photographs of animals being cruelly treated by humans for sexual purposes to put pressure on the German government.
Zoophiles, or those who practise bestiality, argue that they treat animals as equals and never force them to do anything against their will.
“We are going to take legal action to fight this,” said Michael Kiok, chairman of the pressure group Zoophile Engagement for Tolerance and Information (Zeta), which has about 100 members. “Central to the beliefs of zoophiles is that we don’t do anything that the animal doesn’t want. “How can one know the animal doesn’t want to, those poor animals used will obviously conform, they will have learnt or been trained to react in a certain way…but try it with a dog who hasn’t & your probably going to get a nasty bite!”
We do not treat them cruelly. An animal is quite capable of showing precisely what it wants and does not want. When I look at my dog I know immediately what it wants. Animals are much easier to understand than women,” he said.“WTF…how the hell can an animal tell you it wants to $£%$(&*()£^£()+_- ?? It’s ridiculous, I bet all of the members are ugly (the ones I have seen so far are!) with beer bellies & foul breath, they can’t get a women, that’s their problem!”
The centre-right government of Angela Merkel, which has shaped the law change, said key to the new legislation was recognising that sex with humans was “inappropriate” for animals. “Of course it is, any sane person is disgusted just at the thought of it!”
According to Hans-Michael Goldmann, chairman of the parliamentary agricultural committee which will discuss the law on Wednesday before a final vote in the Bundestag on 14 December, animals should not be used “for personal sexual activities or made available to third parties for sexual activities … thereby forcing them to behave in ways that are inappropriate to their species”. “Exactly, forcing them to act in a way that is totally unnatural & unacceptable. Both parties in a sexual relationship must agree to have sex, if one does not but is forced or cohered into doing so, then it is classed as rape!”
Animal rights’ campaigners welcomed the ban, but said it was being used to divert attention from more widespread and pressing animal rights issues. “We welcome the new amendment (to the law) to ban sodomy,” said Thomas Schröder, president of the German Animal Welfare Association (DTSB). “But this achievement in the animal welfare struggle cannot be used as an excuse to conceal other urgent animal rights questions“. “No it can’t, so we the public, will keep up the pressure, until such things are changed!”
Agriculture minister Ilse Aigner was said to have introduced the amendment to appease animal rights campaigners angry that more is not being done to tackle perceived animal rights abuses in the agricultural industry. Campaigners want bans on cutting off piglets’ tails, and the castration of piglets and branding of horses without anaesthesia. In the end Aigner has affected a change only on the issue of castration, but not until 2018, when the practice will only be allowed to be carried out under local anaesthetic. “There is much work to be done to put all the wrongs humans do to animals, right, this we know. Especially in the agricultural industry as animals have always been seen as objects without feelings; but it is changing slowly for the better!”
Kiok, 52, a university librarian from Münster, southern Germany, who lives with his 8½-year-old Alsatian called Cessie in what he calls a relationship, said zoophiles had been “put on the sacrificial altar of a lazy compromise“. Estimating there are about 100,000 active zoophiles in Germany, he said the group remained deeply misunderstood.“Of course it’s misunderstood because normal people don’t see animals as sexual partners!”
“We don’t have anything to do with people who abuse animals,” he said. “We only want what’s best for the animal. “It cannot be that the mutually gratifying sexual contact between human and animal is forbidden because it’s unfavourable to the species, but the abuse of animals in the agricultural industry continues.” “What’s best for the animal is for human sexual predators to stay away from them. One can not say sex between human & animal is mutual, because animals can’t tell you otherwise.”
He said he had received death threats from campaigners who were threatening to remove his dog. The protesters posted on Facebook that they had the addresses of 800 zoophiles and would campaign to have their pets taken from them. “Humans who only see other humans as sexual partners will of course think pets are better away from those who interfere with them!”
Koik said he had been through years of therapy and despair due to his zoophilia, only discovering on the internet the “huge number of zoophiles, especially in the US,” he said. “It was a relief to feel I wasn’t a monster as I’d heard for much of my life,” he said.“Of course other people who dabble in bestiality, zoophiles, sodomy etc. are going to stick together & confirm what they do is not wrong etc.; as do those of us who think what they do, is totally wrong!”